LLC vs S-Corp vs C-Corp — the real tax math explained.
Social media is full of bad advice about S-Corps eliminating self-employment tax entirely. The truth is more nuanced — and more interesting. This guide shows you the real numbers, including the NYC corporation tax that most people forget to factor in, so you can make the right decision for your business.
Adjust the inputs below to match your situation. The calculator uses 2025 federal and New York rates, assumes single filing status, applies the standard deduction, and assumes this business is your only source of income. If you have other significant income — a W-2 job, another business, substantial investment income — your actual marginal rate is likely higher than shown and these results will understate your real tax. Consult a tax professional before making entity decisions.
Entity Tax Comparison Calculator
Sole Proprietor / LLC vs S-Corp vs C-Corp — 2025 rates — Single filer — Business income only
Total business income before any deductions
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Before salary, payroll taxes & entity taxes
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Your W-2 salary (required by IRS for S-Corps)
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Before-tax profit (revenue − expenses):
$300,000
This is the starting point for all three entity calculations below.
* Results assume single filing status, standard deduction, and this business as your only income source.
Rates are 2025 estimates for directional comparison only — actual tax liability depends on your full return.
See full assumptions & rate details below ↓
Let’s start with the truth
The S-Corp myth you’ve seen on social media
The bad advice you’ve probably seen:
“Form an S-Corp and pay yourself no salary — all the profit flows through as distributions and you avoid all self-employment tax.” This is incorrect and the IRS actively pursues it. S-Corp owners who perform services for their corporation are required to pay themselves a reasonable salary — and the IRS has won court cases on this point consistently since the 1970s.
The real advantage of an S-Corp is more targeted: self-employment tax (15.3%) only applies to your salary, not to the remaining profit distributions. If your business generates $300,000 in profit and you pay yourself a reasonable salary of $100,000, you pay SE tax on $100,000 — not on $300,000. That difference can be significant. But “no salary” is not a strategy — it’s tax evasion, and it comes with penalties, back taxes, and interest when the IRS catches it. Run your numbers in 30 seconds →
What is a “reasonable salary”?
The IRS defines it as what you would pay a third party to do the same work. If you’re a sole-owner consultant billing $400/hour, the IRS expects a salary commensurate with your market rate — typically $60,000 to $120,000+ depending on your industry, hours worked, and the profitability of the business. There is no magic number, and your tax professional should help you establish a defensible, documented salary.
Before you form anything
LLC vs. sole proprietor — the liability question every new business owner needs to answer
The most common misconception we hear from new business owners: “I formed an LLC to save on taxes.” This is not how it works. A single-member LLC is taxed identically to a sole proprietorship by the IRS — both report income on Schedule C and pay self-employment tax on net profit. The LLC creates no tax advantage on its own.
What the LLC actually provides is personal liability protection. If your business is sued, a properly maintained LLC creates a legal wall between the business judgment and your personal assets — your home, savings, and retirement accounts. That protection is real and often worth having. But it is a legal benefit, not a tax benefit, and it only works if you actually maintain the separation between business and personal finances.
✓ LLC is usually worth it when:
→You have meaningful personal assets to protect (home, savings, retirement accounts)
→Your work carries real physical or operational liability — contractors, trades, healthcare-adjacent, food service, fitness
→Clients sign contracts in your business name and disputes could result in litigation
→You want to establish business credit or banking separately from your personal finances
→Some clients or vendors require a legal entity to contract with you
→You plan to eventually elect S-Corp status as the business grows
⚠ LLC may be overkill when:
→You’re in the very early stages with minimal revenue and low-liability work (some writing, tutoring, simple consulting)
→Your primary “liability” exposure is a client being unhappy with your work — a well-drafted contract may be sufficient
→You operate in NYC and your profit is near or below $85,000 — UBT credit covers you, but you’re paying NYS LLC fees and publishing costs for limited tax benefit
→You can’t commit to maintaining the separation (separate account, contracts in the LLC name) — a sloppily maintained LLC provides weaker protection than you think
New York LLC formation is more expensive than most states.
NYS filing fee: $200. Mandatory newspaper publication (within 120 days of formation, or your LLC can be dissolved): $300–$500 in Suffolk County, $700–$900 in Nassau County. Biennial statement: $9 every 2 years. Total year-one cost: $600–$1,400+ before any professional fees. These are real costs that need to be weighed against the protection value for your specific situation. We help you make that determination as part of every formation consultation.
The LLC only protects you if you treat it like a separate business.
Courts can “pierce the corporate veil” and hold you personally liable if you commingle personal and business funds, pay personal expenses from the business account, fail to sign contracts in the LLC name, or otherwise operate as if the LLC doesn’t exist. The entity provides a legal shield — but only if you use it correctly. A separate bank account from day one is non-negotiable.
Understanding each entity type
What you’re actually choosing between
Option 1 — Sole Proprietor or LLC
Sole Prop / LLC Single-member or multi-member
By default, a single-member LLC is taxed as a sole proprietorship — all net profit flows to your personal return on Schedule C and is subject to self-employment tax (15.3% up to the Social Security wage base, then 2.9% on the remainder). A multi-member LLC is taxed as a partnership by default.
Simplest structure — minimal ongoing compliance
No separate business tax return required (single-member)
Can elect S-Corp taxation later
All profit subject to self-employment tax
Less tax-efficient at higher income levels
Option 2 — Most popular
S-Corporation LLC or Corp with S-election
An S-Corp election (Form 2553) changes how your LLC or corporation is taxed. The owner takes a reasonable W-2 salary, pays payroll taxes on that salary, and remaining profit flows as a distribution — not subject to self-employment tax. This is the primary tax advantage. Requires a separate Form 1120-S each year.
SE tax only on reasonable salary, not all profit
Can generate meaningful savings at $80k+ profit
Pass-through taxation — no double taxation
Reasonable salary is required and enforced by IRS
Payroll administration required — adds complexity and cost
NYS $25 minimum tax + NYC GCT if operating in NYC
Option 3
C-Corporation Standard corporation
A C-Corp is a separate taxable entity — it pays its own corporate income tax, and then shareholders pay personal income tax on any dividends received. This “double taxation” makes C-Corps generally unfavorable for small business owners who want to take profits out of the business. Best suited for businesses seeking outside investment.
21% federal corporate rate — favorable if retaining earnings
Best structure for venture capital or outside investors
Double taxation on distributed profits
NYC General Corporation Tax applies
Most complex and expensive to maintain
New York City business owners — read this carefully
Two NYC taxes nobody talks about
If you operate in New York City, there are two separate layers of additional business tax that dramatically change the entity comparison — and both are almost entirely absent from the social media content you’ve seen.
Tax 1 — NYC General Corporation Tax (GCT): applies to S-Corps and C-Corps.
NYC does not recognize the S-Corp election for pass-through purposes. It imposes its own 8.85% GCT on S-Corp net income at the entity level, with a $1,000 minimum. This partially erodes the SE tax savings that made the S-Corp attractive. Long Island businesses (Nassau and Suffolk counties) are not subject to GCT.
Tax 2 — NYC Unincorporated Business Tax (UBT): applies to LLCs and sole proprietors operating in NYC.
This is the tax most people completely miss. NYC imposes a 4% UBT on net business income of sole proprietors and single-member LLCs operating within the city. There is a full credit for UBT liability of $3,400 or less (approximately the first $85,000 of net profit), and a partial credit for liability between $3,401 and $5,400. Above that threshold, the full 4% applies. This means an LLC operating in NYC with over roughly $112,500 in net profit faces UBT on the income above that level — on top of SE tax, federal income tax, NYS income tax, and NYC personal income tax. Importantly, electing S-Corp status eliminates UBT entirely, since NYC does not impose UBT on S-Corps. This is one of the most compelling reasons NYC business owners at the right income level should consider the S-Corp election.
The calculator below includes checkboxes for both NYC GCT (business operating in NYC) and NYC resident personal income tax. The UBT is factored in automatically when you check the NYC business checkbox and your profit exceeds the credit threshold.
The bottom line
When does an S-Corp actually make sense?
The S-Corp election starts making sense when your net profit (after operating expenses but before salary) consistently exceeds roughly $80,000 to $100,000 per year. Below that threshold, the additional cost of payroll administration, a separate business tax return (Form 1120-S), and NYS minimum taxes often eats up most or all of the SE tax savings.
Here’s a simple framework:
Net profit under $80k
Single-member LLC is typically the right choice. Simpler, cheaper to operate, and the SE tax savings from an S-Corp won’t justify the added compliance cost.
Net profit $80k–$150k
The S-Corp election starts to show meaningful savings. The calculation depends heavily on the industry, your defensible reasonable salary, and whether NYC GCT applies.
Net profit above $150k
S-Corp election almost always makes sense (unless NYC GCT significantly erodes the benefit). The SE tax savings on profit above a reasonable salary can be substantial at this level.
Important: The S-Corp election has timing requirements.
To elect S-Corp status for a given tax year, you must file Form 2553 by March 15 of that year (for a calendar-year business), or within 75 days of the business being formed if it’s a new entity. Missing this deadline means waiting until the following year. Plan ahead — this is one of the most common and costly mistakes new business owners make.
Multi-member businesses
What if there’s more than one owner?
For businesses with multiple owners, the comparison changes in important ways. A multi-member LLC is taxed as a partnership by default, requiring a Form 1065 partnership return and K-1s for each partner. Each partner pays self-employment tax on their share of the active business income.
A multi-member LLC can also elect S-Corp taxation, allowing the same reasonable salary / distribution structure — but all owners must be U.S. citizens or permanent residents, there can be no more than 100 shareholders, and there can be only one class of stock. These restrictions make S-Corp less flexible for complex ownership arrangements.
If your business has or plans to have outside investors, preferred equity, or complex ownership tiers, a C-Corporation is likely your only viable option — venture capital funds and most institutional investors cannot hold S-Corp shares. This is a legal and structural consideration that goes beyond tax, which is precisely why we recommend consulting a business attorney alongside your tax advisor when forming a multi-owner entity.
Calculator assumptions & rates used (2025)
Important assumptions: This calculator assumes (1) single filing status, (2) this business is your only source of income, and (3) you take the standard deduction rather than itemizing. If you have other significant income sources (W-2 job, other businesses, investment income), your actual marginal tax rate may be higher than shown here, and the results will understate your real tax liability. Use this as a directional comparison only.
Filing status: Single filer (most conservative assumption; MFJ would show lower rates)
Federal standard deduction: $15,000 (2025, single filer) — applied before federal income tax calculation
NYS standard deduction: $8,000 (2025, single filer) — applied before NYS income tax calculation
Federal income tax rate: 22% marginal rate on income above standard deduction — assumes no other income sources
SE tax (LLC): 15.3% on first $168,600 of net SE income × 92.35%; 2.9% above; 50% deductible
S-Corp FICA: 7.65% employer + 7.65% employee on W-2 salary
NYS income tax rate: 6.85% marginal rate — simplified; assumes no other NYS income
NYC resident income tax: 3.876% top bracket — if NYC resident checkbox selected
NYC GCT (business): 8.85% on net S-Corp or C-Corp income; $1,000 minimum
NYC UBT (LLC/sole prop): 4% on net profit; full credit ≤$3,400 liability; partial credit to $5,400; S-Corps exempt
C-Corp federal rate: 21% flat; qualified dividends taxed at 15% federal rate
NYS S-Corp minimum: $25/year entity-level tax
Compliance costs*: ~$3,000/yr for S-Corp; ~$2,000 additional for C-Corp — estimates only, see disclaimer below
* Compliance cost disclaimer: The figures shown ($3,000 for S-Corp, $2,000 additional for C-Corp) are rough estimates of incremental tax preparation and payroll service costs only. They are intended to illustrate that operating an S-Corp or C-Corp carries meaningful additional overhead vs. a single-member LLC. They do not represent total accounting, bookkeeping, or payroll costs for your business, which vary significantly based on complexity, transaction volume, and the professionals you engage. Use this as a directional guide, not a quote.
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Disclaimer: This page is for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Tax laws change frequently and your individual circumstances will affect which entity structure is right for you. Geiger Tax & Accounting provides tax advisory and administrative filing services; we do not provide legal advice. Always consult a licensed tax professional and, for legal matters, a licensed New York attorney before making entity formation decisions.